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The "top 4" names: Adragon Mello, Ainan Cawley, Michael Kearney, and William Sidis, all child prodigies, each cited with IQ of 300+, i.e. the highest IQs then known (the first three IQs determined by their parents), of the growing Thims 32, prior to Libb Thims commencing (29 Sep 2010) with re-ranking of all geniuses, so to clean the above such "objectionable nonsense" rankings, e.g. where Mello (IQ:400) was shown with an IQ twice that of Newton (IQ:200)?

In genius studies, Thims 32 refers to a 2010 list of thirty-two individuals said or purported to have an IQ of 200 or above (compare: IQ 200 or above impossible), as compiled by Libb Thims, beginning in about 1993, as a matter of curiosity, which was posted online (2008), and the made into a popular by a four part YouTube video series IQ:200+ | Smartest person ever” (2010), which has 2M+ views. The list originally was ordered by "highest IQ citation". When, however, after finding the purported IQ of 400 of Adragon Mello (1976-), on 28 Sep 2010, semi-famous for his record-setting age 11 (1987) college graduation achievement, and seeing how "nonsensical" the list had become (see: 29-person list, below), e.g. ranking some eleven-year old boy, who obtained a degree in computational mathematics, as being twice as smart as Newton, Thims began to engage into a quest to cogently re-rank of all geniuses of all time, by "real IQ". This move has resulted in the current top 2000 geniuses rankings.[1]


Savant | Rankings

In the 1960s to 1980s, a basic underground high IQ society "cottage cheese" industry had developed, run via printing articles, in the backs of magazines, with offers for mail in IQ tests, curated by people such as: Ralph Haines (1966), Christopher Harding (1974), Kevin Langdon (1977), Ronald Hoeflin (1982), Scot Morris, Grady Towers, Rick Rosner (1992), Christopher Langan, Marilyn Savant (1980s), among others, all of whom making “societies” and “tests”, each one trying to best the former one, based on questions each of them made up, to yield “derived IQs”, based on these tests, that grew exponentially, until the whole thing became an imaginary intellectual house of cards, with no basis whatsoever, therefrom “selling” concocted IQ scores in the 170 to above 200 range, to basically a bunch of intellectual anons, with no actual real intellectual genius-level accomplishments. The candle on this cake was lit when in 1986 the group convinced Guinness Book that Savant's IQ was 228, based on a Stanford-Binet test she took when she was age 11, after which, in 1989, when Guinness Book found out the whole thing was a scam, the were forced to remove their once-entertaining "Highest IQ" category.


In the 1990s, Libb Thims began to come across publications where people were claiming or being cited as have the “highest IQ ever” (Marilyn Savant, 1993), be the “smartest person ever” (Christopher Langan, 1999), and or have IQs in the 200 or above range, not to mention that Guinness Book, from the 1960s to 1989, ran a yearly “Highest IQ” section, which purported to list the person with the highest recorded IQ, printing IQs such as 197 (Christopher Harding, 1985), 210 (Korean boy, 1978), 210 (Emanuel Swedenborg, 1978), 228 (Marilyn Savant, 1986), and so on.[2] The following, to exemplify, shows Marilyn Savant's IQ of 228, below left, as listed in the 1986 edition of Guinness Book under the "Highest IQ" category, and below right, the back cover of her 1993 96-page booklet The World’s Most Famous Math Problem: the Proof of Fermat’s Last Theorem and Other Mathematical Mysteries:[3]

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Here, we see Savant (1993) boasting that she has the "highest recorded IQ in the world" with an IQ of 228. Technically, to clarify, this might be a correct statement, in that her IQ was recorded "on paper" in the Guinness Book (1986). Prior to 1986, the highest "recorded", on paper, IQ belonged to Goethe, who was recorded or reported by Maud Merrill (1926) to have an IQ of 225, and in fact was the first human ever calculated to have an IQ of 225. Both of these, however, are what Isaac Asimov (1961) classify as "paper IQs".[4] The question then becomes: how do we know whose "paper IQ" is correct?

To summarized, at this point, Pierre Fermat, in 1637 stated the following theorem:

Fermat's last theorem: No three positive integers , , and satisfy the equation: , for any integer value of greater than 2.

This theorem, in fact, was so trivial to him, that he scribbled it as note in the margin of his copy of Diophantus' Arithmetica. However, in 1816, Heinrich Olbers attempted to coax Carl Gauss into solving or proving it. The three of them, Fermat, Diophantus, and Gauss, of note, are ranked 14th, 22nd, and 2nd, respectively, in the greatest mathematician ever (GME:#) rankings.[5] The theorem was finally solved or proved in May 1993 by Andrew Wiles; then summarized in a laymanized booklet by Savant in Oct 1993.

1993 | 5-person list

The following, according to the above invented IQ ideology of Savant, we are supposedly, per Savant's confused boast that she has the highest "IQ in the world", meaning by implication, that she is the smartest person ever, to rank the four previously named geniuses (including herself), as follows, where S# is the Savant ranking, the T2# is the current ranking the person in the top 2000 rankings, the IQ:1993 column shows the highest known IQ for each person, as of 1993, and where the IQ:Current column shows all known IQ estimates to date:

S# T2# Person IQ:1993 IQ: Current Overview Sex Country
Marilyn Savant 75.png
Marilyn Savant
228 IQ quess.png=

IQ G.png=228

IQ O.png=127, 157, 167, 186

[RGM:1174|1,350+] IQ quiz maker, newspaper columnist, writer; F American
2. 21.
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Carl Gauss
180 IQ real 190 normal c png.png

IQ SS.png=240
IQ O.png=200±, 250+[6]
IQ JP.png=180+

(Cattell 1000:848) [RGM:11|1,350+] (GME:2) Mathematician, physicist, astronomer; M German
3. 226.
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Pierre Fermat
IQ real 175.png (Cattell 1000:893) [RGM:492|1,350+] (Murray 4000:5|M) (GME:14) (CR:13) Mathematician, politician, and lawyer;
“Perhaps, posterity will thank me for having shown that the ancients did not know everything.”
— Pierre Fermat (1659), "Letter to Pierre Carcavi"

Noted for his work on finding the greatest and the smallest ordinates of curved lines, and work in number theory, analytic geometry, probability, and optics.

M French
4. 345
Diophantus 75.png
IQ real 170.png (Murray 4000:13|M) (GME:22) (CR:14) Mathematician; noted as author of a series of books called Arithmetica, many of which are now lost; influenced: Hypatia and Fermat; added at 170|#345 (below Legendre) per extant GME rankings (Nov 2020). M Alexandrian
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Andrew Wiles
IQ quess.png=

IQ O.png=170[7], 200[8]

Mathematician; specializes in number theory; noted for his1993 proof of Fermat's last theorem. M English

In sum, in 1993, Guinness Book (1986) had "recorded" Savant's IQ as 228 and John Platt (1962) had published that Gauss' IQ was 180. Here, we see only a confused mess.

We are to believe, supposedly, that the “person” who writes a laymanized summary of math proof that someone does, about theorem that someone else had already solved, in their head, three centuries ago, which he wrote in the margins of a math book, he was reading, written by someone over two-millennia ago, is not only “smarter” then all of them, but numerically smarter than all of them in terms on a natural number scale.

Thims was about age 21 to 23 when he read this collection of presented misinformation. As it turns out, Savant's IQ was a publicity stunt scam, The 1993 brainchild of Andrew Egendorf, a lawyer who wanted to promote a book he was drafting on High IQ societies, and Ronald Hoeflin, who had been devising and selling purported to be high IQ tests, that would “certify” people has having IQs in the 170 to 195 range, who approached Savant, over dinner, about using her age 11 Stanford Binet test scores, mixed with some number and age fudging, to get Guinness Book to rank her as having the “Highest IQ”, which would thus help her land a job in the newspaper industry.[2]

Thims | Rankings

2008 | 15-person list

See main: Thims 15

In Jan 2008, Libb Thims, after collecting more purported to be IQs at or above 200, made an MS word file, shown below, derived from his person folder collections of geniuses, of 15 supposed “geniuses” with IQs of 200 or above:[1]

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Here, again, we see a confused mess of real geniuses, e.g. da Vinci or Goethe, mixed in with fake geniuses, e.g. Savant, and geniuses with IQ miscalculations, e.g. Galton, and child prodigies, e.g. Kearney or Grost, with IQ over-estimations.

On 24 Mar 2008, this list was posted online, and by 2009 the list had grown to 18-individuals, which was used to make an “IQ: 200+ | Smartest person ever” YouTube video; which was followed up, which was popular, getting about 20K views, but was removed by Thims, because it was too quickly and crudely made.

28 Sep 2010 | 29-person list

On 28 Sep 2010, Libb Thims had uncovered the purported "IQ of 400" of Adragon de Mello, who in 1987 became America's youngest college graduate; IQ calculated by his father when he was age five.[9] This new IQ:200+ addition, to Thims growing collection, being done at this point solely as a matter of investigative curiosity, became the infamous "version 465" edit (28 Sep 2020 8:20 PM CST) of the IQ:200+ table, where at this point, names were simply ranked according to who had the highest IQ, whatever the source, or means by which the IQ was calculated or determined, which is shown below in the "highest calculated IQ" (IQH) column, which can be compared to the other IQ estimates (IQO) column, and the current (IQC) column (from the top 2000 rankings); also shown below, employed at the time, was whether or not the person had contributed to the development of human thermodynamics (HT) in some way (Yes or No), and whether or not their IQ of 200 or above estimate was real or not (yes: ; no: Red X 2 20x18.jpg), along with the age, if known, when their highest IQ estimate was calculated (the younger the age, the more of an age-based ratio IQ calculation it was). The # column shows the person's ranking on 28 Sep 2020, the T2# column shows the person's current "top 2000" ranking:[10]

# T2# Person IQ highest.png IQO IQC Age HT Real?
De Mello 75.png
Adragon Mello
(21- AE)
(1976- ACM)
400 5 No
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Cawley 75.png
Ainan Cawley
(44- AE)
(1999- ACM)
349 263 7 No
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Kearney 75.png
Michael Kearney
(29- AE)
(1984- ACM)
325 200 4 No
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4. 314.


Sidis 75.png
William Sidis
(57-11 BE)
(1898-1944 ACM)
300 250


175 16 Yes
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Koser 75.png
Marnen Koser


268 No
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Rick Rosner 75.png
Rick Rosner


250 200



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Tao 75.png
Terence Tao


230 220


11 No
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Marilyn Savant 75.png
Marilyn Savant
228 186



7 No
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9. ###.


Hirata 75.jpg
Christopher Hirata


225 175+ 16 Yes
10. 1.


Johann Goethe
225 215



210 26 Yes
11. 3.
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Albert Einstein


225 205



205 Yes
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12. 6.


Da Vinci 75.png
Leonardo da Vinci


220 210


200 No
13. 41.


Shakespeare 75.png
William Shakespeare


210 190 No
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Yong 75.png
Kim Ung-Yong


210 200 No
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Leopold 75.png
Nathan Leopold


210 206


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16. 44.



Hypatia 75.jpg


210 170 190 No
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Langan 75.png
Christopher Langan


210 195



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18. 78.



Swedenborg 75.png
Emanuel Swedenborg


205 165 185 No
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19. 23.


Leibnitz 75.png
Gottfried Leibniz


205 190 Yes
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Stern 75.png
Edith Stern


203 201


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21. 2.


Isaac Newton 75.png
Isaac Newton


200 195


205 Yes
22. 16.


Voltaire 75.png


200 190 195 195 No
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23. 750.


Galton 75.png
Francis Galton


200 145 4-15 No
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24. 69.


Mill 75.png
John Mill


200 180 185 No
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25. 80.



Grotius 75.png
Hugo Grotius


200 185 No
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26. 208.


Wolsey 75.png
Thomas Wolsey


200 180 No
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27. 118.


Curie 75.png
Marie Curie


200 180 180 No
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Grost 75.png
Michael Grost


200 8 No
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Yano 75.png
Sho Yano


200 10
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29 Sep 2010 | 29 names | Re-ranking initiated

On 29 Sep, Thims, having ruminated on this preposterous ranking picture, e.g. showing de Mello (IQ 400) ranked #1 and Newton (IQ 200) ranked #21, for a day, began to "take it upon" himself to RE-RANK all the geniuses, assigning each a correct or closer-to-reality IQ, which one can see in the IQ current (IQC) column, above, so to get a more "realistic" ranking (see: real IQ). This path led to the 460+ person "genius IQs" table (started: 24 Oct 2011), which became the 10-page top 1000 geniuses (start: 1 Jan 2018), which became the top 2000 geniuses (start: 2 Nov 2020).

31 Oct 2010 | 32-extant + 6-added | 40-person list

In Oct 2010, Thims "found" three other purported-to-be 200 IQs, namely: Naida Camukova (c.1976-), Dylan Jones (1992-), and Nikola Tesla (1856-1943), which he added to the list, growing it to 32 names. He added the following eight seemingly salient or "obvious" missing "potential" candidates: Maxwell, Clausius, Young, Galileo, Euler, Copernicus, Majorana, and Gauss, and listed them all online:

IQ 200 geniuses (2010 version).jpg

On 31 Oct 2010, Thims used this list to make a 4-part YouTube video, which got over 2M views.[11] The genius listings, at this point, were confined to those cited at IQ 200 or above, amounting to "40 geniuses" existive and historical.[12]

Of note, in the expanded top 1000 geniuses rankings (Nov 2020), only six of the original 40 are still holding in the IQ:200 or above position, namely: Da Vinci, Einstein, Newon, Goethe, Maxwell, and Clausius, as shown boxed above; which can be compared to: Copernicus, Galileo, Young, Gauss, Majorana, and Euler, as shown by dotted boxes, who originally were being ruminated on as "potential" IQ:200 range geniuses, have since fallen, in the bigger picture of things. Here, 85-percent of the original forty "potential" or said-to-be or purported-to-be IQ:200 range geniuses, were over-estimates, i.e. non-real IQ estimates.


In Mar 2010, an "IQ:225+" page was started, a subset of the former, in attempts to rank, classify, and study the doze or so people, then known, with purported IQs of 225 or above; little sense, however, resulted.[13]

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See also


  1. 1.0 1.1 Why does Libb Thims make genius lists? (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  2. 2.0 2.1 Guinness Book IQ (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  3. Savant, Marilyn. (1993). The World’s Most Famous Math Problem: the Proof of Fermat’s Last Theorem and Other Mathematical Mysteries (Ѻ). St. Martin's Press.
  4. Paper IQ (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  5. Greatest mathematician ever (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  6. What was Gauss’s IQ? (2019) – Quora.
  7. Johnson, Robert. (2011). “The 18 Smartest People in the World” (Ѻ), Business Insider, Apr 6.
  8. What is Andrew Wiles IQ? (2016) – Quora.
  9. Youngest college graduates (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  10. IQ:200+ (version 465) (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  11. Thims, Libb. (2010). IQ: 200+ | Smartest person ever” (playlist), Human Chemistry 101, Oct 31.
  12. IQ:200+ (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  13. IQ:225+ (subdomain) – Hmolpedia 2020.
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