Hmolpedia (reviews)

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In Hmolpedia, Hmolpedia (reviews) (TR:5) (LH:1) (TL:6) refers to reviews of Hmolpedia, 2005 to present.

Overview

In the loop

The following are few reviews, of dozens, of Hmolpedia, listed in reverse chronological order, made by those "in the loop", meaning their mind has been immersed in the problem for years, maybe decades, or more:

Libb Thims is an American electrochemical engineer who is building the extraordinary web-based Encyclopedia of Human Thermodynamics at EoHT.info. This valuable knowledge base on the work of hundreds of scientists, engineers, and philosophers he calls the ‘Hmolpedia’ (a human molecule encyclopedia). He is a prolific writer and has published several books exploring his hypothesis that chemical thermodynamics can be used to explain many aspects of human life.”
Robert Doyle (2020), "Libb Thims", InformationalPhilosopher.com, Mar 13 [1]
“Chemical engineer Libb Thims has compiled an incredibly sophisticated wiki, titled the Encyclopedia of Human Thermodynamics, of the historical works attempting to merge social systems and humans to thermodynamics. Libb concludes that humans actually are molecules, a complex 26 atom molecule. As Libb’s cohort has shown, many have attempted, in many ways, to apply thermodynamics to social systems.”
Jacob Leachman (2017), “Social Thermodynamics: Gibbs and the Energy for Change”, Aug 24[2]
Hmolpedia a fantastic summary of all the confusion. I am curious to know where your website is coming from. Who owns and funds it? Who is its intended readership?”
Leslie Woodcock (2010), Comment to Libb Thims on Hmolpedia, Aug 8[3]
“I stumbled onto Thims website by accident but I have to confess this might be one of the most stunning undiscovered intellectual achievements of the 21st century. I have browsed through your wiki and I cannot express how tragic it must be to a man in [Thims] position—to be a pioneering thinker yet to be rejected by an uptight academic community with neither the depth nor will to understand your unique work, defending their own turf like dogs. I can only compare [Thims] to the many other pioneering heroes of science, Newton, Einstein, Tesla, men who like you blazed their own paths but were too victims of their own genius, only to be validated years after their death. Perhaps one day historians will look back and have a chuckle—that the pioneer of enthropology published by a vanity press in a book resembling a third rate romance.”
Steven Pearce (2009), "Hmolpedia cite message", Dec 20[4]

To understand what Pearce, Woodcock, Leachman, and Doyle are touching on here, you have to let your mind go down the "rabbit hole" for a decade, at least, to truly "begin" see "reality", as they are seeing things. To even begin to touch in your mind on what is being said here, you have to see the precisely-numbered 700-equations of Willard Gibbs' 1876 On the Equilibrium of Heterogeneous Substances, at minimum. If not, what comes out of your mouth, will tend to be confusion. In 1930s, Einstein defined Gibbs as the smartest person in the history of America. This definition has not been disturbed to date.

Out of the loop

The following are a few reviews of Hmolpedia, listed in reverse chronological order, made by those "out of the loop", meaning those in the main stream, who are basically your average person:

Wikipedia

In Mar 2019, the following review-like dialogue formed at the “science” section of “Reference Desk” part of Wikipedia: [5]

What is Hmolpedia? Who invented it, and is it good? I see a lot of hits on it but no Wikipedia page. Is it like Conservapedia but scientific?173.10.22.133 (talk) 05:42, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

The purpose of Hmolpedia will be to apply the Gates model of hmolscience introduced in the 2012 book Debates of the Hmolpedians by Belgian psychologist and scientific philosopher David Bossens. Bossens claims it is possible to predict human reactions in the same way we currently predict test tube sized chemical reactions, by measuring free energy, namely chemical determinism defined by the first and second Laws of thermodynamics. DroneB (talk) 09:13, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
It seems hmol stands for human mole, and "in science, a human mole is one molar unit of humans or human molecules." Holy moly!--Shantavira|feed me 09:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
The general idea seems like it is very sorely needed, especially in regard to the politics of illegal immigration where, at least in the U.S., there is absolutely no awareness of any distinction between kinetics and thermodynamics. (For example, they think they should reduce the total number of immigrants by building a wall rather than addressing employment) Wnt (talk) 13:54, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
Sounds like an attempt to realise the fictional concept of Psychohistory, a means to predict future historical developments, as imagined by SF author Isaac Asimov. (There is a somewhat different real world discipline of Psychohistory that instead analyses past historical factors in the light of psychology.)
That Psychohistory ((fictional) article has an 'Outside fiction' section briefly describing similar real world theories; if there are insufficient independent reliable sources to confirm the notability of Hmolscience as a standalone article, it might nevertheless merit mention in that section. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 2.123.27.125 (talk) 17:29, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Here, it seem the posters shown are crudely on target, given little research. Isaac Asimov's "psychohistory"[6] is one of Hmolpedia's 6,000+ articles (and a new AppleTV movie is about to be released about this). This article, however, leads into areas of coverage that Wikipedia will not cover, such as the history of attempts, by real people [not fictional], to model human social changes using the kinetic theory of gases, which might amount to more than 100+ authors, if tabulated. The so-called overarching editors of Wikipedia, however, will send more than 70 percent of these authors to the "articles for deletion" trash bin.

There is, to note, a scientific rule or principle for this, which has not yet been named nor penned, which explains why Giordano Bruno (1600) was burned at the stake, why Percy Shelley (1806) was expelled from Oxford, why James Froude (1849) had his book burned at Oxford (and lost his post), and why Wilhelm Ostwald (1905) was suspended from his professorship of physical chemistry at the University of Leipzig, all because they believed that humans move the principles of atoms and reaction.

The original poster (OP), mentions the word "good". Hmolpedia, unlike Wikipedia, defines this term to its solar roots. The OP compares Hmolpedia to Wikipedia and Conservapedia, "but scientific"? Compare: Wikipedia alternatives, where all of this is covered. The posters mention David Bossens, a former member of Hmolpedia, who while completing his MS in psychology, wrote an book about his experience in the debate and dialogue threads of Hmolpedia.

Another poster speaks about the thermodynamics and kinetics of immigrant border crossing. These are all covered in Hmolpedia, by at least a dozen plus authors, historically speaking. Articles of this sort at Wikipedia, however, will quickly be shut down.

RationalWiki

In 2018, RationalWiki started a stub section in their "to do list" (with rankings), which is presently listed as follows:

Hmolpedia (RationalWiki).png

Presumably, the goal here, given the MO of RationalWiki is to debunk Hmolpedia as pseudoscience, woo physics, or word salad? Whoever attempts this line of action, is but facing intellectual regret; we can but cite: Christoph Wieland (1810)[7], Pitirim Sorokin (1928), and Werner Stark (1962), as prime examples, of many, fallen prey to the false "light".[8]

Taking a Look At

In 2017, the YouTube channel Talking a Look At, did a fairly hilarious review of Hmolpedia, by a group of guys, one getting their PhD in something, wherein the screen record clicks through various articles, and comment as a group on each page, resulting in a mixture of "confused laughter", to say the least.[9]

End matter

References

  1. Libb Thims – Information Philosopher.
  2. Leachman, Jacob. (2017). “Social Thermodynamics: Gibbs and the Energy for Change” (Ѻ), Hyper Laboratory, Washington State University, Aug 24.
  3. Sadi-Carnot (profile) (WB) (2013) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  4. Libb Thims (quotes on) (user: Sadi-Carnot) (2013) – Hmolpedia 2020.
  5. Hmolpedia (12 Mar 2019) – Wikipedia.
  6. Psychohistory – Hmolpedia 2020.
  7. Christoph Wieland – Hmolpedia 2020.
  8. Note: Anyone who attempts to debunk Hmolpedia as but pseudoscience, will concordantly have to debunk the "Goethe model" in the same manner. Whoever attempts to "do" this will become but the laughing stock of history. At a bare minimum, one needs, as prerequisite, a degree in chemical engineering (or equivalent) to even begin to open one's mouth, intellectually. In plain speak, one will have to be honed in the "history of chemical thermodynamics", in respect to how "affinity" became "free energy", microscopic to macroscopic. This, alone, takes a full decade to process and absorb, after one obtains a college degree (by whatever name).
  9. Anon. (2017). “Talking a look at Hmolpedia” (YT), Taking A Look At, Aug 5.

Videos

  • Anon. (2017). “Talking a look at Hmolpedia” (YT), Taking A Look At, Aug 5.

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