# Difference between revisions of "Libb Thims (quotes on)"

 A 2010 video[1] by Mark Janes on Libb Thims and "human thermodynamics"; Jaynes having being working, independently, on his own similar theory, since 2006, called "carbon entromorphology", wherein he attempts to explain everything, e.g. love, beauty, sex, morality, gender, god, good, evil, etc., in terms of thermodynamics.

In quotes, Libb Thims (quotes on) refers to statements, quotes, comments, summaries, opinions, and or videos made about Libb Thims.

## Quotes | 2020s | 65-74 AE

The following are 2020s (65-74 AE) on Thims:

Libb Thims is an American electrochemical engineer who is building the extraordinary web-based Encyclopedia of Human Thermodynamics at EoHT.info. This valuable knowledge base on the work of hundreds of scientists, engineers, and philosophers he calls the ‘Hmolpedia’ (a human molecule encyclopedia). He is a prolific writer and has published several books exploring his hypothesis that chemical thermodynamics can be used to explain many aspects of human life.”
Robert Doyle (2020), "Libb Thims", InformationalPhilosopher.com, Mar 13 [2]
“The greatest minds in history. My big influences are in the top 2000 list: Goethe (my strongest influence), Newton, Einstein, Leonardo Vinci, and Libb Thims. Thims has influenced me in my: atheism, my determinism; I became interested in thermodynamics; I discovered the work of Goethe; my understanding of intelligence changed; in my work ethic (work hard, study hard, don’t waste your time; in unlearning the idea that I am alive. Nothing is. I learned about Beckhap's law, the influence of latitudes on the intellect, the way in which books and the search for self-taught knowledge can change the entropy of the body.”
Zadquiel Lugo (66AE), Tweet, May 4[3]
“One of the smartest people I know is Libb Thims, and you can go chat with him anytime on Reddit here.”
— Stephen Chow (66AE), “Tweet”, Aug 2[4]

## Quotes | 2010s | 55-64 AE

### 2016-2020

The following are quotes on Thims in the years 2016 to 2020:

“I have watched your videos for years and was wondering if you might let me know what you consider to be the single most important thing you have learned throughout your studies?”
— John Gaetano (2016), “Email query to Thims”; Harvard (Ѻ) freshman studying government (Ѻ) (see: response), Mar 6
“Congratulations for publishing the 10-volume print set of Hmolpedia. I will recommend it to librarians I know. Excited to see your great contribution to this field now also available in printed version. You are one of my inspirations of the difference a one-man-army may make to resuscitate this field! I repeat, you are a living encyclopedia of HT. I have no doubt many aspiring students like me around the world benefiting from your contribution to the field.”
Ram Poudel (2016), "Email communicate to Thims" on news of finishing printed version of Hmolpedia, Mar 25 + Aug 2
“For a really down-to-earth discussion of the topic that entropy and information are not the same thing, see: Thims (2012).”
— Roman Krzanowski (2016), “Towards a Formal Ontology of Information” (pg. 19)
“The book: New Dimensions in Sociology, A Physicochemical Approach to Human Behaviour (1987) received major attention in 2014 when Libb Thims, of the Institute of Human Thermodynamics, in Chicago, compared the work with that Goethe some 200 years back. His appreciation encouraged me to develop the socio-physicochemical theory and one may find a few publications on ResearchGate all based on application of the theory.”
— Mirza Beg (2017), “Living in an Entropy-Driven World: Socio-Physicochemical Theory” (Ѻ), Jan 7
“I love this site. It's pure genius. I have never seen someone rank geniuses in such a brilliant way. I dedicated a [468+ genius] genealogy project (Ѻ) to your work. You even have a [Geni.com] profile (Ѻ) … because I feel your work deserves wider recognition. I am fairly intuitive … I feel you are descended from Goethe (or another genius on your list).”
— Alex Bickle (2017), cite [oye777] message to Libb Thims, Feb 22, 25
“Chemical engineer Libb Thims has compiled an incredibly sophisticated wiki, titled the Encyclopedia of Human Thermodynamics, of the historical works attempting to merge social systems and humans to thermodynamics. Libb concludes that humans actually are molecules, a complex 26 atom molecule. As Libb’s cohort has shown, many have attempted, in many ways, to apply thermodynamics to social systems.”
— Jacob Leachman (2017), “Social Thermodynamics: Gibbs and the Energy for Change” (Ѻ), Aug 24
“Definitely putting a delta G [${\displaystyle \Delta G}$] on my tombstone! ”
— Dan Pohl (2017), comment on “Rod and Libb and Cemetery” (Ѻ), Sep 10
“Ha ha ha … oh, [Thims] must be a genius.“
Mirza Beg (2019), “Beg Interview”, Sep 16 [5]
“Libb Thims is a very smart atheist (Ѻ). So smart, in fact, that he's cracked the code to life, the universe, and everything. Welcome to the wonderful world of ‘zerotheism’. In this world, human thermodynamics can explain everything, even love!”
— IwasAmWillBe (2019), “forum post” (Ѻ), KiwiFarms, Jul 22

### 2010-2015

The following are quotes on Thims in the years 2010 to 2015:

“I think the notion that Facebook may be in the process of auto-brain-forming is at least credible as the idea that we – us humans – can be thought of as giant molecules. As a starting point to examine this intriguing concept see: “Inside the IoHT” as explained by Libb Thims, at the Institute of Human Thermodynamics.”
— Martin Gardiner (2010), comment (Ѻ) to Carl Zimmer’s “Facebook is Not a Brain, and Other Failed Metaphors”, Jul 9
“One of the most interesting topics [human molecule] I have ever had the pleasure to read. Going through it a second time, and looking forward to the third. [The Human Molecule] covers the most fundamental change in human knowledge since Charles Darwin's On the Origin of Species [1859], by presenting a theory that we are fundamentally molecules, and that the question of life itself is a fundamentally flawed one. Especially important is the carefully laid out historical narrative of how Thims came to his theory of the human as a molecule. Whether you ultimately agree with this work or not, it represents a paradigm shift in viewing our place in the world.”
— Jeff Tuhtan (2011), American civil engineer and ecological thermodynamicist [6]
“Libb Thims: the great oracle and developer of human thermodynamics—the philosophical revolution of the 21st century. A genius of outstanding stature and originator of many concepts in human chemistry. [His] breathtaking contribution to science needs to be rewarded. Let’s hope one day [he] can add a Nobel Prize to [his] impressive career.”
— Mark Janes (2011), English chemical engineering student turned biotechnologist and human free energy theorist [7]
“I must say, I started watching your videos over a year ago, and have re-watched many. And they still fascinate me. I’m only 17 and I’m seriously considering doing a degree in chemistry after watching your videos. The only downside is not many people I know can have a conversation about the things you’re talking about. You were right your videos are decades if not a century in front of its time.”
— Benjamin Cresdee (2011), comment on Human Chemistry 101 YouTube channel
“The idea that individual humans are atom-like entities and there is a kind of chemistry between social atoms and molecules is very natural, but whether it is more than a metaphor remains uncertain. Anyway, human chemistry has been on the marketplace of ideas for quite a while [see: Goethe timeline, 1796]. The main reason why I abstain from referring to Libb Thims’ flamboyant venture other than as to a commendable review of literature is that he, apparently, uses the term chemistry too literally in the sense of molecular chemistry, while I am interested in pattern chemistry. I can only note that the very idea of human thermodynamics as a separate subject looks to me completely sound. Thus, the concept of metabolic cost is part of it. Obviously, human interaction is a component of global economy.”
— Yuri Tarnopolsky (2011), Introduction to Pattern Chemistry [8]
“The short booklet The Human Molecule by Libb Thims (esp. chapter 9 and pg. 70 - the Molecular Evolution Table) presents a fascinating depiction of man’s evolution. One is able to see how all life forms slowly became more complex by way of molecular evolution. Accepting this evolutionary understanding requires us to also accept a ‘new story’ in our quest.”
— Tavit Smith (2012), “Ancient Religions and the New Story”, Jan 1 [9]
“[Human thermodynamics] is a branch of science that attempts to predict the behavior of people via chemical and thermodynamical equations. It is an interesting philosophy, a change of paradigm, perhaps even having a broader explanation for human behavior than Darwanian evolution. Human thermodynamics can also be useful as a new framework for the origin of life. For instance, Libb Thims, proposed online that the idea of Darwin’s ‘dark pond’ which suddenly sprang to ‘life’, is not a very coherent one [defunct theory of life], and that it would be much more creditable and parsimonious to have as a rule that molecules bond and form ever more complex beings. Libb Thims also proposed a ‘human molecule’ where people are attracted to each other by chemical bonds [see: human chemical bond]. All this I believe to be a reasonable explanation: even if Darwin’s theory is still correct, the approach of thermodynamics and chemistry is a much more simple, and at the same time broader view. If the concept of biology is somehow redundant, then we must study it by means of chemistry and physics.”
David Bossens (2012), “Reflections: Criticisms of Science” [10]
“Libb Thims is [a walking] encyclopedia of human thermodynamics.”
Milivoje Kostic (2013), introduction to Thims’ 16 Apr NIU talk [11]
“Thims has a remarkably poisoned pen[6] that seems to overshadow his intellectual care.”
— Terrence Deacon (2013), commentary to Thims during the JHT “JDNM peer review”, May 22
“This [are viruses alive] debate could take an entirely different route if you consider a letter published [2009] in the Journal of Human Thermodynamics by Libb Thims in which he discussed the idea that a theory of life was in fact defunct. The point was made that we do not consider a single atom to be alive, nor two atoms, or three. He builds on this statement to say that ‘it should be very obvious that no matter how many atoms one adds to the argument that an atom or a structure made of two or more atoms cannot be alive’. This is a bold statement as it clearly implies that it is impossible to apply the idea of life to anything, even us. Nikola Tesla also outlined a ‘defunct theory of life’ in 1915 where he said that ‘There is no thing endowed with life’. This is obviously a very pedantic way to look at the definition of life but a relevant viewpoint nonetheless. Is anything living, or nothing? Or everything?”
— David Busse (2013), “Viruses: Living or Not?”, Dec 10 [12]
“I’ve got a MA in chemistry—but your book [Human Chemistry]—it really affected me. I’ve been prompting it in our university [Technion] in the last couple of years—and got great responds from some top researchers—I think you’re doing excellent work!”
— Ofer Po (2013), Facebook messaging; see: religious views (Ѻ) adjacent (Dec 24)
“I was very excited on reading about [Thims] hmol.science [hmolscience] which touches the human dimensions with the implicit assumption that human transformation processes are thermodynamic transformation processes and that reactions between people constitute chemical reactions between human molecules.”
— Mirza Beg (2014), email communication (15 May) following Thims’ 13 May discovery of Beg's very ripe physicochemical sociology book (New Dimensions in Sociology: a Physico-Chemical Approach to Human Behavior, 1987)
“American electrochemical engineer Libb Thims took an unorthodox approach when he set out to rank the smartest people of all time.”
— Natasha Bertrand (2015), “The 40 smartest people of all time” (Ѻ), Business Insider, Feb 27
“When I visited the house of German writer and artist, Johann Wolfgang von Goethe (the oft-called 'last universal genius') in Weimar many years ago, I was taken by his original writing desk. To stand before the great writer's creative space thrilled me. I was quite literally standing in the spot he wrote his great works; you see, he wrote while standing up. His desk was tall, five feet high and on a slant like a podium. Since then I've discovered other genii who also wrote whilst on their feet. Sir Isaac Newton wrote his entire Mathematical Principles of Natural Philosophy standing up. Ernest Hemingway also wrote standing at a chest height desk on which he'd placed his typewriter. He once said, ‘writing and travel broaden your ass, if not your mind, and I like to write standing up.’ German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, and American electrochemical engineer Libb Thims also wrote standing up. Even Aristotle is credited with walking about while talking and thinking. So, with so many great thinkers to vouch for the benefits of standing up to write, a while ago I purchased a standing desk for myself.”
— Angela Sunde (2015), “Standing Up to Write”, Apr 8 [14]
“My brain is getting bigger by the minute.”
— Caleb (2015), six-year-old student of "Zerotheism for Kids" class; comment (V[L10]:6:30) on learning (from Thims) big bang to human molecule based evolution, in upgrade to god-based six-day creationism, Aug 10
“Libb Thims, whose real IQ I estimate at 200, is an American electrochemical engineer, and one of the ten most intelligent humans currently reacting on this planet. His primary website, the Encyclopedia of Human Thermodynamics, is widely considered the greatest intellectual achievement on the Internet. The EoHT Forum discusses topics spanning from morality to ‘life’ and ‘death’, and from literature and art to the many fields of science. Reading through the threads on the forum will probably yield an increase in the reader’s IQ.”
— Inderjit Singh (2015), “Knowledge is Power” (Ѻ), Oct 3
“Economist Roefie Hueting (1929) explains that his economic analysis on the environment isn’t understood by Herman Daly, which is a pity since Daly worked at the department for the environment of the World Bank in 1988-1994. Libb Thims suggests that Georgescu-Roegen and Daly have a wrong concept of thermodynamics as well: but I have not looked into this. We see a similar kind of confusion with Robert Costanza, who has a background in architecture and environmental system engineering, but who switched to what is called “ecological economics” but which quite surely need not be economics at all, but which may be an application of hoped-for notions of thermodynamics.”
— Thomas Cool (2015), “Dirk Bezemer disinforms Dutch Parliament” (Ѻ), Nov 17

## Quotes | 2000s | 45-54 AE

The following are quotes in the 2000s on Thims:

“Eye-opening and understandable. Revolutionary!”[7]
— Lynn Liss (2003), American MBA student; review of Human Thermodynamics manuscripts
“Something 60-80 years ahead of its time. Thims, in the future, will be someone who’s talked about in classrooms as this guy who had this idea.[8] However, now, yes the book will sell, but its premise will not be accepted by people of this generation.”
— Monzer Ettawil (2005), American law student; see: posthumous genius [1]
“Thims' brilliant book Human Chemistry symbolizes the beginning of a new era (epoch) in human history.”
— Georgi Gladyshev (2006), Russian physical chemist [2]
One day instead of (or in addition to) regular math, chemistry, physics, etc., kids in school will be learning something like one human molecule + another human molecule = ?[9] ... it's just a crazy thought, but hey, we'll see or somebody will.”
— Natalia Roubanenko (2006), Russian-born American language studies scholar (see: dihumanide molecule; human reproduction reaction; zerotheism for kids); commentary after reviewing 100-page manuscript of Thims' Cessation Thermodynamics, Apr 29
“I want to say how much I enjoyed reading [Thims] splendid discussion of Gibbs free energy. It is wonderful to see someone who is not afraid to look at the phenomena of life in a unified way.”
— John Avery (2006), Lebanese-born Danish physicist and theoretical chemist
“The chapters of Human Chemistry are wonderfully written. I have a feeling it will be Thims who will get the public’s attention about the fundamental change in thinking in science.”
— Jing Chen (2006), Chinese-born Canadian mathematician and economist [3]
“Thims’ edits are far and wide. Unless Physchem is an incredible polymath, I doubt he would be able to pick up on all the BS a Thims-type editor introduces. That’s not knocking Physchem, I don’t think there is anyone who could deal with the range.”
— Keith Henson (2007), American electrical engineer and evolutionary psychologist
“If we accept Thims’ logic of human thermodynamics as a viable explanatory framework, which it very well is, romantic bonding then becomes the subject matter of quantum electrodynamics (QED), an aspect of particle physics that traces human attachment and bonding to the interactions of photons and electrons. Thus, applying Thims’ theory to interpersonal and love relationships, it is unlikely that any one person has the ability to coerce or unilaterally secure another person’s affection. In a different sense, the force of attraction between a man and a woman is beyond their physical control, except, of course, by way of the energies they emit and exchange between them. Thims’ Human Thermodynamics thus makes substantial contribution to our understanding of the perplexing nature of romantic love, greatly supplementing prior research in this field.”
— Satch Ejike (2008), African-born American lawyer and social scientist [4]
“I stumbled onto Thims website by accident but I have to confess this might be one of the most stunning undiscovered intellectual achievements of the 21st century. I have browsed through your wiki and I cannot express how tragic it must be to a man in [Thims] position—to be a pioneering thinker yet to be rejected by an uptight academic community with neither the depth nor will to understand your unique work, defending their own turf like dogs. I can only compare [Thims] to the many other pioneering heroes of science, Newton, Einstein, Tesla, men who like you blazed their own paths but were too victims of their own genius, only to be validated years after their death. Perhaps one day historians will look back and have a chuckle—that the pioneer of enthropology published by a vanity press in a book resembling a third rate romance.”
Steven Pearce (2009), "Hmolpedia cite message", Dec 20[10]